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PARADISA MODS ([personal profile] paradisamods) wrote in [community profile] paradisaooc2011-10-01 05:59 pm
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ACTIVITY CHECK DISCUSSION

Hey guys!

So there's been some confusion and disagreement about what should/should not count for activity check, what is counted where, etc. So this is a post where we'd like to discuss revamping the activity check system with you! Once we can get a clear idea of what everyone feels is fair, it will make it easier for us to have a clear system where everyone understands the activity requirements desired of each character in Paradisa.


SECTIONS:

What do you think should count for a post?
What should constitute thread "size"?
What should constitute comment "quality"?
How much should the mods be responsible for? The players?
How should a thread on a log be judged?
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[personal profile] valerie 2011-10-01 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's making a generalization. Not everyone's posts on the main community are like that. Just like not everyone's log posts are as in-depth and time consuming as is being generalized.

To me, they are equal and should be treated as such. I don't think that one way of replying to someone should be considered any different than replying to another. Therefore, and this is just my personal opinion coming out, a thread in the logs community shouldn't count as a post if a thread in the main community doesn't.

[identity profile] matchmaker.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
We have to agree to disagree then. I mean, it comes down to my opinion differing from yours, and while I can see where you're coming from on paper I can only speak to my own experiences and not anyone else's re: posting tags to journal entries versus posting tags to logs, and I already laid that out for you above.
Edited 2011-10-01 23:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] valerie 2011-10-01 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But therein lies another problem. It's differing opinions, which we are all entitled to! But how do we all reach a compromise as far as AC guidelines are concerned? The goal is, above all, to reach a solution we can all agree on. (Or at the very least, tolerate, so we can continue to have fun in Paradisa.)

[identity profile] matchmaker.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly think the mods need to take a more hands off approach as some have suggested already. I have a paper due tonight so I am going to be brief here but:

1) Have players post their own activity each month to make less work for you and more accountability for us.

2) Stop monitoring everything so closely. I swear I have seen more charts in this place than anywhere else in my life.

3) If it's not broke, don't fix it. Leave the activity rules alone instead of making them more arbitrary/complicated.

4) If people are really that inactive or squatting, approach them. If castmates and CR are not coming to you guys to complain then what's the problem? Honestly.

Paradisa already has the most complicated activity check related stuff from any game I've ever been in. Deciding what counts over what and making more ways to track stuff just ... I can't see it helping at all. It should be straightforward as laid out for us countless times in the past when AC is brought up--a combination of two posts or participation in two logs or any combination. If people are dropping threads or abusing this system then step in. If you don't notice it and no one else cares enough to go to a mod about it then it's obviously not a problem.
Edited 2011-10-01 23:45 (UTC)

[identity profile] ardens-musebox.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Very well said, on all fronts. I agree with all these things.

[identity profile] noworldleft.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
So do I.
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-10-02 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
plus three or whatever we're on number-wise. Make us accountable, let players come to you to complain about individuals squatting/etc., keep things clearcut and straightforwrad as far as what "counts" for AC.

[identity profile] tomatoandbasil.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
We're all pretty mature here; the fact that we're hashing this out rather assertively rather than screaming and having a barfight in this post right now is proof enough. We can be accountable for ourselves and each other; the mods don't need to monitor everything constantly.

It'd make it easier for everyone. +1 to this

[identity profile] saccharosium.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with everything in this comment.

[identity profile] spongetastic.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
After reading through all these comments, I have to agree that being accountable for your own AC seems like a great solution. It wouldn't be very difficult. You just make a document on your computer and put your tags/logs/posts there as they happen so that when the AC comes you can just copy+paste.

And if you miss it for whatever reason, we've seen from previous ACs how other players are more than willing to go thread-hunting for people.