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PARADISA MODS ([personal profile] paradisamods) wrote in [community profile] paradisaooc2012-12-08 12:29 pm
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HOW'S THE GAME?

It's time for another round of Game Discussion, also known as

HOW'S THE GAME?


Here we come together to discuss the game, its plots, the settings, and just about anything we can think of that we'd like to talk about, expand upon, improve, change, etc.

This is not an HMD for players and their characters; this should be about the game's function as a whole and not the people in it. If there is something you feel is absolutely necessary to address that involves a specific person, please IM a mod first to discuss it. We can be reached at valawie (Valerie), fan of todd (TF), or never die ftw (Ashley).

Anonymous will be left off for this round. Sock journals are allowed, but you will have to request comm access to post with them.

This round will be an OPEN FORUM. Please feel free to bring up any game-related topic you'd like to discuss. All topics will be linked in the main post.

HOW'S THE STAFF
MANDATORY PERSONAL HMD POSTS
PLOTTING 101
ACTIVITY CHECK ACCOUNTABILITY
WORLD OF PARADISA
wield: (Default)

[personal profile] wield 2012-12-08 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, neither would I~ As far as AC goes it would definitely make it a lot less chaotic as well as creating less threads that would ultimately get posted onto the AC check if people forgot to tag themselves in. The only problem I can see with that is people just one commenting into a lot of things and not actually threading, or if they do they are small threads. So it would take a lot of you guys going through and actually making sure people weren't just slipping their way in.
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[personal profile] rogueofheart 2012-12-08 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think using special tags for entries you've commented on would mostly just be for convenience to the player when rounding up their AC. As a mod, I'd still only check for the entries, and the player would be the one to present the threads on the AC post. From there I go through and click each thread to make sure there aren't any single-tag threads, etc.

[personal profile] ftssusstgsetfwe 2012-12-08 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
EXCUSE MY BUTTING IN BUT I think this sounds really good. It'll make it easier for players to find their own AC on their own, without making that an extra stress for the mods.
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[personal profile] spongetastic 2012-12-08 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm +1ing this. I'm in games that have separate tags for commenting, and it is so~ much easier to find yourself that way for AC purposes. Especially if you're a frequent tagger and can't otherwise remember everywhere you went that month.
foolreversed: (But the cabbages here are rounder...)

[personal profile] foolreversed 2012-12-08 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The only problem with an extra set of tags to use is that it can make things pretty cluttered and also means you might run out of tags faster (idk what dw's limit is on that if they have a limit at all)

I know Para's not as big as it once was, and the new comm meant there wasn't already like 5 years of tags already used so it could not be a big deal at all here, but it might still be something worth taking into account.
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-08 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Running out of tags has honestly been my reserve about it in previous HTGs. There's always the option of cleaning out older tags, but I'd hate to have to resort to that.
foolreversed: (That kinda guy can't get no love from me)

[personal profile] foolreversed 2012-12-08 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah precisely. I wouldn't want to see older tags get cleaned out: someone could rejoin with that character or maybe someone wants to go back and look at an older plot's/character's posts?
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-08 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
As of right now we have 516 tags in use out of 1500 available, and 17 of those are plot/misc tags. We probably have closer to 200 characters in the game at the moment, so we might actually be safe for a while re: tags!
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[personal profile] onlyanapple 2012-12-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There is of course always the option of just keeping the regular tags we have now, and have people tag with them. We'd still be looking at entries made by that particular character, so maybe we DON'T need separate tags for if a character is commenting as opposed to just posting.
ino: (Better vision.)

[personal profile] ino 2012-12-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^

I don't think we necessarily need to differentiate between comments and posts in the tags, especially if space is an issue. It's pretty evident which posts are actually posted by the character, for the sake of AC.
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-08 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My only slight concern with this is that people may assume that because they're tagged in it with the regular tag, they'll assume it counts for a post for the month.
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[personal profile] ino 2012-12-08 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a possibility, for sure. I think that could hopefully be cleared up with some clarification in the rules, though!
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-08 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Then yeah, I could be down with that. It'd be best if it worked that way across both communities, meaning that 1 log post tag =/= one entry anymore. (Which was another point I was going to bring up.)
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[personal profile] hellshaped 2012-12-09 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
What about when it's a closed log? X and Y want to do a log together, but X made the post. X and Y are both tagged.

Similarly, what about when it's a "joint post" (over the journals)? Say X and Y have a discussion planned, but they don't want to have the whole conversation in the body of the post; instead, they want to have it in a comment thread. X made the post but they're both tagged, as well as other people who have commented.

Would these examples only count towards X's AC, and Y would have to provide the links to AC check? The first one would be simple to check obviously, but if we change it to all tags across the board, Y would lose something that would have made them AC before.
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-09 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
WHOOPS HERE IS MY ACTUAL ACCOUNT SORRY

If it's a closed log or a joint post, then that would count for both characters. When it's an open post, though, only the poster should get credit.

I realize that there is a way to loophole around this and say "Well I'll just add them in the 'Who' part" but when it's exactly the same as an open post over the journals, there really should be no difference.
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[personal profile] hellshaped 2012-12-09 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
lmao i saw "paradisamods" in my inbox and i was like DID I DO SOMETHING BAD......

My only concern is when it's a joint post that isn't immediately noticeable. Something like this, for example -- Molotov made the post, and part of it is open, but there's also a "closed" section for Brock. I guess my concern is that I don't know how in depth you look at posts when you're checking AC. :|c
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-09 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I see everything.
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-09 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
And by that I mean, if I see a post tagged "Brock" but it's clearly Molotov's post, I'll look and see oh, it's a closed sort of thing! That sure does count, carry on, etc etc.
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[personal profile] hellshaped 2012-12-09 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
But!!! If we start allowing people to tag everything they've commented to with their character tag as mentioned above (without a qualifier/special tag like "c: Brock" to save space), how will you differentiate a closed joint Molotov/Brock post that other people tagged into from an open Molotov post? This is so wordy.

IN OTHER WORDS, Ezio, Spike, and Max also tagged into that post. Under the new system, it would be clearly Molotov's post, with additional tags for Brock, Ezio, Spike, and Max. How would this look to you in terms of AC?

unless i read the discussion about tags incorrectly which is possible
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[personal profile] valerie 2012-12-09 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
No, that brings up a good point! It's also why I'd prefer not just use one all-purpose tag if we start tagging entries we commented on. But this all needs to be a big discussion and voted upon first, of course.

The pros and cons of everything: a discussion.

But if we did use one generic tag, I'd see there's that room filter that pertains to just Brock. But this is where it all gets very technical so I'd hope there would be more clear "THIS IS A JOINT POST WITH SO AND SO" notes on the entry.

I should also note that I'd be paying closer attention to the joint posts because if someone is tagged in the entry but did like one or no tags to contribute, then I'm more likely not to give that character credit.
Edited 2012-12-09 05:00 (UTC)
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[personal profile] hellshaped 2012-12-09 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, got it!!

Personally if we do go the route of tagging everything, I'd prefer if we had qualifying/special tags as well. But that would be a thing to be decided later, I guess!