paradisaooc | ATTN: ALL PLAYERS

As of this week, Sunday, November 20th - Saturday, November 26th, all those being held within the Peace Patrol Prison will be outfitted with power-restraining collars. (Pending they actually have powers, you know, details.) These collars do not undo the effects of powers, do not uncreate these powers, but do the following: prevent those powers from being used on other people/characters/the environment.

Powers have essentially been capped, bringing all villains to the level of "average human" as far as general capabilities. It doesn't alter mentalities, if part of their physiology requires X and Y to persist, this still holds true.

This is not a perfect solution ICly! Measures are still being researched, ICly, as to how to stop convicted villains from injuring/harming/committing acts of mental or physical violence against others. These collars stop villains from using their powers on other people. The collective group working on it (spearheaded by Felix, Eleven and Ray assisting on the tech end of things, Felix the mastermind behind magic, research, and probably also sliced bread) has been taking time technically talking to casts or doing research in order to make these collars effective per each character.

This is the pat happy reason for why it's taken so long, etc.

As a consequence: all future villains caught and convicted by the Peace Patrol will be outfitted with a similar collar up to and until such a point as another means is worked out.

On another note: Sakura is still the public face for all of this. All flak for the prison break, the fact this happened right before the collars were ready, that she held the remaining trials behind closed doors and only with a judge and evidence laid out and argued for and against, that can and should be held against her or examined.

Any questions, please ask me here, in AIM @ shadhahvar, or on plurk if you have me there. Also I have an email address, which only eats emails once in a blue moon! You can find it on the contacts page.

Edit: This means all prisoners outfitted with collars are released back into the population by next Sunday. They should be monitored and tracked by the Peace Patrol, but theory and actuality are often two different beasts of burden.

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While IC discussion is welcome and will inevitably happen, the post still presents the whole collar thing as "this WILL happen next week" despite acknowledging that these things don't necessarily stop mental or physical harm from being committed... and if you aren't stopping those things, what are you stopping?

I can get behind this from the angle that Sakura and Co. are going rogue and taking justice into their own hands by taggin' and releasin' the villains –– it could make some compelling drama and generate some discussion about who takes responsibility for being judge and jailer. Shit, after a single break-out, the judge goes "let them all out with these collars", that's some seriously awesome power-tripping, whether the collars are a good idea overall or not. You could stir up a lot of drama that way, create a power struggle, etc. But from the angle that this is going to be presented to the castle beforehand and then done anyway, it's really awkward. It becomes an OOC race to stop a ticking time bomb and dismantle it instead of a proposal;

Pretty much this. It seems predetermined OOCly, so why should I bother objecting to it in that fashion? The wording of the post limits it to IC objection.

This really strikes me as a complete breakdown of IC and OOC communications outside the tiny group that knew, and I don't like it at all, to be quite honest.

For the IC? Wash is going to say fuck the Peace Patrol after this, and he isn't going to be the only one.

For the OOC, which I think is a bit more serious? I can say this much: I know that the player of the Meta, who is in prison and would be one of those unpowered ones that would be an issue, was not contacted.

Actually, she is upset between this and the jailbreak stuff(she would have at least liked to hear that a jailbreak was happening, if not the details), seeing as she'd been the person trying to handle the prison as much as she can and handling the Prison Posts(as she plays Kat too). No one has been contacting her about anything, and she now feels like she's wasted her time to the point where she is debating dropping.

It does to me, too. I had no idea any of this was planned, either, or else my own plans would have been very different. Honestly, as far as organizing goes, I feel like we need a page or something that lists where characters are stationed, who is in charge of what areas. It's hard to know who to contact when you don't know who is closely connected to what projects. I organized the destruction of the outposts, and checked off on what happened in the PP HQ on the condition that it was only one prisoner getting out –– I didn't know who had or hadn't been contacted about it, only that Jesse was okay with Joshua getting out and presumably everything else had been set in place.

Mods are discussing communication ASAP and will be making a post about next steps.

I had tried to organize some sort of PP communications trail OOCly, and it didn't really get far at all, but ... I definitely agree that SOMETHING needs to be set in place so that everyone can have access to who does what, both ICly and OOCly. Sylvia and I had discussed this a little bit recently, but it's hard to do while she's on hiatus with little to no 'net access.

I will say, though, that this isn't the first time that something has been worked out between a group of players and given to the game with an initial reaction of "wait, WHAT".... I only knew about it because Ishmael emailed me re: Ray and Five, but I wasn't contacted by or asked to contact anyone else.

That being said, I don't think anything Ishmael has done was out of line with etiquette - she contacted those who would be directly involved. Bringing it up to the game at large may just simply not have seemed necessary...? IDK. I don't want to bring anything down on her head, or point fingers, or name names ... I just think this might be a general wake-up-call in terms of how Big Things get planned.

Yeah. Honestly, despite Clark serving a minor role in the Peace Patrol, I really have no idea who does what or what changes have been made; I feel like that could be improved by having someone in the PP keep a *dedicated* up-to-date Wikia page on everything about the PP, from who is leading to who is working on what projects to what their HQ looks like.

I feel a lot of problems in the game circle back to this game being very old (for LJ RP, anyway) and bogged down in outdated systems. I feel my perception of the HQ is skewed because Clark helped Tony build it –– but I have no idea how it has changed since. This game has grown and changed in so many ways despite keeping a roughly static amount of characters, and honestly, I feel I am just getting "old" as a mod: it's the same problems popping up time and again, but every time they're with different players and a different group, making it nearly impossible for any ground to be gained. It's exhausting.

However, re: who should have been contacted, there are a number of people in this post who have expressed surprise at the collars, despite playing villain characters who would presumably been released next week. Do they not count as "directly involved"...? And if it hadn't been brought up, what then? This happens next week without a chance for rebuttal, the post going skimmed over? It gets complicated :(

I don't have time to ICly or OOCly run anything, but what I AM good at is organization of info. I would be more than happy to head that Wikia page ... I could update it at the same time that I check the comm on Mondays for Mark, even. It's just a matter of gathering all the information ...

... Heck, I'd even been thinking of drawing up a new HQ map, so, sometimes, great minds really do think alike. :) I'm on AIM for another hour or so if you're not feeling too drained to help refine the idea a little more?

Re: Joshua's breakout. The last thing I wanted to do was upset anybody. Like I said above, I wasn't really in any position to warn anybody because it was supposed to be a secret that a mod trusted me with that was related to the rest of the plot.

However, it's one I agreed to keeping, so for that I'm sorry to anyone who felt shafted by the decision, and I'll do my best to avoid doing such things in the future.

I don't mean to single you out with this but I honestly just wish we'd cut this "sworn to secrecy" crap in Paradisa entirely. Problems came up with Riful plot in large part, I think, due to how secret everything was. This just repeats that mistake. It's also been shown in the past wrt Riful that even if a plot is supposedly open and people can come to muns and ask questions about things really, people will not step into a thread or a plot if they feel like they'll be disrupting something. This twist did the same kind of thing, only with busting a prisoner out - when really there should have been people reinforcing Mal, it seems? Cameras catching what was going on?

:/ I don't know where it's best to bring this all up for discussion other than on How's the Game.

Yeah, I do agree. In hindsight, it was not the best decision. I don't think it would hurt to bring it up on the next HTG, since we have them fairly often now.

♥ yeah, just... it takes time for people to react, oocly. In general! And plotting needs to allow for that time or things jumble up. ;/

That's all, really, imo.

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