ATTN: ALL PLAYERS

[encourage]

As of this week, Sunday, November 20th - Saturday, November 26th, all those being held within the Peace Patrol Prison will be outfitted with power-restraining collars. (Pending they actually have powers, you know, details.) These collars do not undo the effects of powers, do not uncreate these powers, but do the following: prevent those powers from being used on other people/characters/the environment.

Powers have essentially been capped, bringing all villains to the level of "average human" as far as general capabilities. It doesn't alter mentalities, if part of their physiology requires X and Y to persist, this still holds true.

This is not a perfect solution ICly! Measures are still being researched, ICly, as to how to stop convicted villains from injuring/harming/committing acts of mental or physical violence against others. These collars stop villains from using their powers on other people. The collective group working on it (spearheaded by Felix, Eleven and Ray assisting on the tech end of things, Felix the mastermind behind magic, research, and probably also sliced bread) has been taking time technically talking to casts or doing research in order to make these collars effective per each character.

This is the pat happy reason for why it's taken so long, etc.

As a consequence: all future villains caught and convicted by the Peace Patrol will be outfitted with a similar collar up to and until such a point as another means is worked out.

On another note: Sakura is still the public face for all of this. All flak for the prison break, the fact this happened right before the collars were ready, that she held the remaining trials behind closed doors and only with a judge and evidence laid out and argued for and against, that can and should be held against her or examined.

Any questions, please ask me here, in AIM @ shadhahvar, or on plurk if you have me there. Also I have an email address, which only eats emails once in a blue moon! You can find it on the contacts page.

Edit: This means all prisoners outfitted with collars are released back into the population by next Sunday. They should be monitored and tracked by the Peace Patrol, but theory and actuality are often two different beasts of burden.

Comments

[ectobabble.livejournal.com]

Thanks for taking the time and the effort to set this up!!! I know that there are muns who've been frustrated about not being able to do anything with their prisoner characters, activity-wise, so for that alone, you're awesome.

As having been in on the collar construction, Ray would certainly be up for helping to monitor and track them - I'm thinking he would've had some sort of radio signal built in.

QUESTION: How are these being handled in terms of the Dead Zone? Clearly, powers not working isn't an issue, but any actual tracking mechanisms would be rendered invalid...

[lord-wizard.livejournal.com]

Since the devices are small, we could use the crystals to ensure they continue to function in the DZ, if needed, maybe?

[encourage]

We can either see if characters used the crystals that still work out in the DZ as the power source behind the tracking portion, or leave it as part of the issue is those characters hitting DZ can make them untrackable within the DZ.

I'm fine either way; if anyone has a particular opinion, I welcome them sharing it now.

[hulloeverything.livejournal.com]

Re: Tracking them. Eleven will totally be on board for rigging up some form of tracking device. They could devise something that will notify someone if they go to any "hot spots" or out of a specified area or something like that.

[thisisprogress.livejournal.com]

TESLA: /PROCEEDS TO FLIPS TABLES D:<

NOT FAIR MAN NOT FAIR

but yessssss this is awesome

[encourage]

IT IS ALL OUT OF LOVE, TESLA

SORT OF

♥

[fastest.livejournal.com]

See guys, don't be hatin'. HE DIDN'T ABANDON YOU, he totally knew you'd be...released soon...

/unhelpful comment

Jr. thinks this is a good idea, though. Of course he'd totally want to make it so that the collar will explode if they try to remove it... But he's a pacifist that way, see.

IDK if it'd be fair to hold it all against Sakura, though, that's a lot of weight, and I'd feel guilty. A lot of the PP were gone for it, including her (I thought?) sooo... It's not their fault, really. Mal did try to do her job, she was just outnumbered and magic was involved. Blaming Sakura would be like blaming her for not stopping them.

I actually had no idea about the collars until now, though, so I swear that wasn't intentional.

[ectobabble.livejournal.com]

I actually had no idea about the collars until now

Which is kind of sad, really - though I don't think it's any one person's fault. Speaking from a purely generic standpoint, I think we should, collectively, be communicating about this sort of thing a lot more. It might be a bit of a bother for some, but ... in the long run, it makes things run a lot more smoothly. I honestly thought this was what the Watch community was for, but I've hardly been seeing anyone use it for that sort of thing.

[encourage]

She's in castle, she's on a loss.

The collars have been in development and my attempts to get in contact and speaking with people to get them ironed out, as the other provided alternatives weren't so much acceptable to Sakura (death, permanent imprionsment) but she herself lacks resources to take care of things in a reasonable way.

Dude, Jr.'s totally okay to see if he and Eleven and Ray did anything nasty like that, I'm leaving most the details vague because I seriously don't know what kind of things would be input from those who made them, if the explosion on removing makes sense. Since. Well. Tracking or DEATH!!!

[lord-wizard.livejournal.com]

As a note, since a lot of this is being done sort of retroactively, if there is anything anybody might want to post date as to Felix research their various powers - this applies primarily to the DGM and Sanctuary casts.

If we can do something re:putting the collars in place that might be cool.

[save-the-souls.livejournal.com]

YOU RANG?

[jamesholmes.livejournal.com]

Seeing as James was working on a power removal project with Nikola's help before this? He's more then happy to work on the collar thing with Felix instead of that. And give Felix a long lecture on vampires in the process, James is probably the better of the two free Sanctuary characters to discuss this with.

Plus lol free test person for things with James, as his abilities are similar in nature to Nikola's.

[encryptedlock]

Is there going to be an IC announcement for this? Because I have to say York thinks it's a hideously bad idea to let people out where they can still cause massive damage to people. Just because someone's powers are sealed doesn't mean they can't murder someone else....

[encourage]

Yes, there will be, though if any of the other players involve din the release want to do so, it may be easier. I can come off hiatus and take Sakura off her loss to make the announcement: if I do so, it will be tomorrow, and I invite all the good, scrumptious IC response and conflict over it then and there for sure!

[variare.livejournal.com]

Yeah that is still an issue. I'm not sure how to get around it, though, because monitoring them some other way (video, audio) would basically involve CONSTANT observation from PP members, which would mean no one gets a life.

[mouthiness.livejournal.com]

You know, this makes me want to have Deadpool get in trouble so he can get a collar and go to them a week later 'EXCUSE ME I DON'T HAVE MY POWERS SO NOW I'M ABOUT TO DIE. CAN I HAVE IT OFF PLZ?'

YEAH THIS IS AWESOME

[encourage]

LMF EMILY

ilu you know

[arrowonthewind.livejournal.com]

:|a was this actually mentioned IC at any point? it's totally possible i overlooked it, but i don't ... remember ....... anyone saying anything about collars before aaaahh

[encourage]

Sakura'd mentioned she was looking into means of how to handle/control/deal with these guys before, but the explicit public post is meant for tomorrow. I've not had a great deal of time to be around bopping these ideas ICly in RP time when I've been trying to keep them in the air and moving OOCly, so that's my lack of whatnot and whosits.

[sonsofzeus.livejournal.com]

UHHH... OKAY YES SO

I guess

I'm confused about what these collars are gonna be exactly? I mean, will there be tracking stuff on them as well as power dampening... stuff? How good will the tracking be if it is there? Will the collars confine them to the castle or anything?

Because... lksldkjf power dampening isn't really going to effect Two-Face or the way he does things... at all... and... it could really be terrible if they're let out of prison with just that... );

[lord-wizard.livejournal.com]

I was told there was going to be some general mind control type thing happening as far as that goes. I believe that was coming from the Doctors, though. I'm not as clear on that end of things.

[valerie]

I hadn't heard about the collars until this post. I can see how this is a way to get those that are "prisoners" to regain some of their freedom, it does bring up a few questions.

If it is being implemented IC-ly now without prior notice to the majority of the residents, how is the Peace Patrol going to handle the backlash? I don't really see too many of the residents being very comfortable with this sudden system being implemented when it has only been discussed with a small circle of patrol members.

To be frank, it's letting a bunch of dangerous prisoners be released into society with a device that, unless it was implied or handwaved, has not been fully tested on said villains. Every person is different, and what could work on a test subject might not work for someone else. Their abilities might be different. Anarin brought up a good point that this also does not prevent them from killing. From the comments it kind of seems like there might be a few kinks that still need to be worked out.

If mind control is a thing as was mentioned in the comments, there is also a huge ethical issue at stake here, one that could do a lot more damage to the Peace Patrol's reputation than it does good. They're villains, yes, but they are still people.

I understand that it would bring up great discussion and we are all about discussion. But shouldn't that discussion occur before as opposed to after? It's putting the Peace Patrol's reputation on the line. They want residents to trust them as people who are working to creating a safer environment, but to the average resident, this may not send that message very well. It's a sudden "law" (for lack of a better word) that is being implemented without being brought to the attention of the residents. What is stopping the Peace Patrol from making other decisions that could essentially be "godmodding" others?

I'm not saying that the intentions of the Peace Patrol are anything but sincere and good, I'm just bringing up a fact that, since there was no notice on this, it could paint the patrol in a poor light to some residents.

[innate.livejournal.com]

1) I actually agree with a lot of this, as well as some points that Odell brought up above. Many of these points I didn't think of right away 'cause I was kind of surprised, but it does seem like a huge decision that affects everybody that was pretty much already decided and...I suspect a large portion of PP members (the players I mean) weren't even aware of it, not just the normal castle residents' players.

I'm definitely not mad over it, or anything, just...caught off guard since it's such a huge thing that affects everyone, and now that I'm reading over some of the issues brought up, can definitely see where it might have some major backfire. Honestly I think this really has the potential to be a great idea, but it may just have some kinks to be worked out. I'm totally willing to help where I can.

2) If this is posted ICly, I wonder if tomorrow might be a little too soon? Because honestly a lot of people are probably still going to be reacting to the breakout and the explosions, so discussing collar ethics might be a bit much at the same time, so I wonder if Tuesday might be better. But that is totally just my take, I could be wrong, I'm not speaking for anyone else.

3) Also, something I've been wondering about... What happened to the trials? This is a question directed more at anybody who might know, not just Ish. I know that Harvey got his trial (I HOPE THAT'S RIGHT AT LEAST?), but what about the others? Are they still going to happen, or was this decided instead of those? Are they going to happen after the collars attached? I only ask because especially after the big deal that was made over holding them accoutable, the PP and others involved might look especially flaky if they just decide to forgo the trials and go straight on to the punishment.

Not that Jr. has a problem with that when he knows someone's guilty (he woulda voted for icing them long ago in the DZ), but... Understandably a lot of other people might.

[omgsock.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I am quite surprised that everyone is focusing on discussing this ICly. What about talking to the game OOCly? From what I've gathered from the comments here, it looks like the entire staff wasn't informed about this, let alone any of the players whose characters it would affect.

I can't help but say that I feel that the one spearheading this idea should be the last person to be upset by this, especially since it really seems like the issue was just now brought to light to everyone that wasn't Felix-mun and Ray-mun.

[templarssuck.livejournal.com]

Actually, I was aware of it, and was under the impression that the other mods were too, but that was my fault for not specifically asking for Ish to include the other two mods on the emails she sent out. As far as I know there was an email sent out to all of the villains who would be affected, as well as many technologically inclined characters asking for help making the collars in the first place.

Overall, I personally feel that it's something that will pretty quickly be negated by other residents who don't agree with it ICly. It was an interesting attempt at a solution to jail time which allows villain muns to be able to do something else with their character besides sit around in jail, but ... I don't think it will last.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence exactly, could you clarify? Do you mean that Ish shouldn't be upset because she spearheaded this effort, or ... ?

[endthem.livejournal.com]

Wha--

Oh, ok. :o

This is news to me, but I can work with it.

What about prisoners without powers (/coughBILLYcough)? Are they being released too?

[cheerupemoborg.livejournal.com]

...So what's stopping Hank from walking up to one of them and just ripping it off?

Or 'telling' it to come off?

Those must be some GRADE A MATERIALS right thurr.